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Monday, May 26th, 2014
1:28 am
Board games by type
Hello, everyone!

This weekend, I had the pleasure of attending a gaming fest that focused on board games. I noticed that worker placement/resource management titles like Agricola, Tzolk'in, Caverna, and Settlers of Catan seemed to be exceedingly popular at this event. I found these games to be rather dry: from my perspective, they lacked engagement and interaction between players, and were kind of dull. I thought to myself, "Gee, we're pushing tiny cubes around and making little piles of stuff for 3 hours. Zzzzz." (Apologies to anyone who adores these titles -- I'm glad you do! They're just not for me.)

I would have chalked my "lack of interaction" reaction to my very low E (I'm right on the borderline), but my husband, who is an off-the-charts I, detested them, too. We're both NTJs -- I/E is our primary axis of difference, so that's what made me wonder if our personality types might relate to the style of games we prefer.

Does anyone have insights or thoughts on this?

Many thanks, and have a good day!
Wednesday, May 23rd, 2012
10:30 pm
Social media for NTs
Many of us, I daresay most of us reading this, have been on LJ for a while. We've seen social media progress from infancy to a standard means of engaging online.

It occurred to me today that it might be fun to ask how your social media interactions as NTs have evolved along with the internet. What have you added to or subtracted from in terms of the social sites you use, and what do you get out of them?

Thanks for reading and responding!
Wednesday, January 19th, 2011
5:26 pm
Tips for working with S's?
I just started a new job and I have a feeling I'm the only N in the place. (I'm an INTJ.) My guess at the moment is that all the men are ST's, and nearly all the women are SF's.

Does anyone have any pithy and practical recommendations for getting along with S's in the workplace that would be helpful as I try to succeed in this job? (Such as, never tell a joke; do not employ irony; etc.)
Saturday, February 20th, 2010
4:12 pm
mbti has been resurrected!

I noticed that the former mbti community had been deleted and purged, so I decided to resurrect it. Unfortunately this doesn't preserve membership information, so if you were a member of it before and would like to be a member of the new one, you'll have to actually go and join the new one.

I'd appreciate it if you guys could join and spread the word to other MBTI communities you belong to... and hopefully we can get some discussion going again!
Saturday, July 4th, 2009
10:53 pm
Peer Pressure
Have a look at the figure below. Compare the line on the left with the three lines on the right: A, B & C. Which of these three lines is the same length as the lonesome line on the left?

Asch Lines

It's obviously C. And yet in a classic psychology experiment conducted in the 1950s, 76% of people denied their own senses at least once, choosing either A or B. What kind of strong-arm psychological pressure tactics made them do this?

The fascinating thing about this experiment was that its creator, renowned psychologist Solomon Asch, set out to prove the exact opposite. A previous experiment by Muzafer Sherif (see his well-known Robbers Cave experiment) had found that when people were faced with making a judgement on an ambiguous test, they used other people's judgements as a reference point.

This makes perfect sense. If I'm not sure about something, I'll check with someone else. But this is only when I'm not sure. The situation is quite different when I have unambiguous information, such as when I can clearly see the answer myself. Other people's judgement should then have no effect - or at least that's what Asch thought.

Full article: http://www.spring.org.uk/2007/11/i-cant-believe-my-eyes-conforming-to.php

MY question: Do you believe that a "T" function would be less susceptible to this type of conformity, as opposed to the "F" function?

Or what about in regards to the other types, like the extravert possibly being more susceptible to this type of conformity as opposed to the introvert? Or perhaps the intuitive is more susceptible as opposed to the sensate?

I'm going to guess that the "T" versus "F" function plays the biggest role in tendency toward this type of social conformity.


(x-posted to [info]infj and [info]typers and

intuitivefeeler )


Saturday, May 16th, 2009
7:15 pm
This community has been awfully quiet for a long time.

Being curious and all, is this because we NTs have poked and prodded it and now moved on to the next shiny new thing?
Saturday, October 25th, 2008
3:55 pm
INTP relationship with INTJ. What can happen?
Hi all!
I'm new to this community but found it rather interesting as I get to relate to NTs alike.

I'm an INTP female. However, in the past when I tested myself, I used to be an ENFP.
Though I am dominantly INTP now, I still have an ENFP side of me. This includes being adventurous, extremely animated at times, social (when I want or need to) and very well-liked.

In certain situations I find my ENFP and INTP sides fighting for my attention. Confuses me at times, but I guess you can say I’m pretty balanced on both Idealist and Realist sides.

Currently, I am interested in a friend whom I know is an NT but not very sure which. I make a guess that he is an INTJ. He can’t be an ENTP because I already have a male friend who is one and I find him a total pushover sometimes. In fact, he is introverted and not much of an extrovert. He can be an INTP but he is more INTJ.

We’ve known each other for about 5 months now. When I first met him I thought he was arrogant, insensitive and overly-quiet. I think that was my ENFP side activated. But now, I feel we have a certain chemistry going on, he has opened up, and he is not that arrogant or insensitive person anymore. I know that he’s been interested in me for a very long time now and even more so now that he has been spending more and more time around me. I think he might have been seduced by my lively ENFP side then. However, I became impatient with him (he was slow in reacting and seemed emotion-less) and forgo the thought of pursuing him.

But now, seeing him be persistent with trying to get my attention for so long already and me understanding more about personality types and clicking quite well with him, I realize I do want him.

It’s funny, because our friends that are always around us have never suspected anything between us maybe because he and I are both iNtuitive and Thinking and do not find any need to outwardly express our interest in each other. We are taking the growth of our relationship rather slowly and calmly.

We have a few similarities:
1. We both love music. A wide-range of genres, that is. And we share our music sometimes.
2. We are both adventurous and have a love for the outdoors. As I type, he is white-water rafting in a state of a neighbouring country.
3. We are both keen observers. Being someone who can see through people well, I get freaked out sometimes because it’s as though he can see through me well too. In fact, he’s even observed me observing someone before and questioned me about it. I know he secretly watches me a lot.
4. We both need our alone times. I find him ruminating. I ruminate and likes to be alone too.
5. We do not like to touch or people touching us. As for me, I am touchy-feely sometimes but will only touch girl friends.
6. We are not the same race but I am learning his language and he knows a bit of my language. This makes conversations fun and amusing!

Being a task and future oriented person. I know that if I do not invest time in building a strong relationship now, I will not find the time or patience to start one when I start working later on. I’m a student of Environmental Engineering, btw and so is he. So I’d like to...

1. Hear your personal experiences of having an INTP-INTJ relationship.
2. Get advice on how to approach the relationship and make the best of it.
3. Know how to nurture a religion-less INTJ (he is a free-thinker) into believing in God and religion. My mother is an INTJ and she is religious. So I know INTJs can be religious)
4.What to expect as our relationship progresses to be a life-long one.

Thank you!
Sunday, March 2nd, 2008
1:28 pm
hay guise,

this might not be 100% NT related but if you're as into psych questionnaires as me, you'll find this useful:


It's about exploring happiness/optimism in yourself and might help you understand your MBTI type better. From famed psychologist Martin Seligman. i think he teaches at Penn state or something. :)
Tuesday, July 24th, 2007
7:13 am
I found this rather interesting community while looking for more information on ENTPs. After reading a thread that lead to a discussion on Heinlein, I knew I had to join. I'm supposed to be an ENTP, but I believe I was classified an ENTJ a long, long time ago. Twenty years ago at least, so I was wondering if anyone had the or even an answer to my current question. Do types flex back and forth and if so, why?
Tuesday, June 5th, 2007
12:23 pm
a relationship question..
ok, so i'm an INTP/J and i've always ended up in relationships with much more outgoing types.. mainly because they were forward enough that i knew i wouldn't get rejected if i asked them out, etc. i'm trying to buck old habits, and i feel like i can get along better with other rationals, but i just don't know where to find / how to initiate contact with NT ladies.

can anoyone, male or female, share experiences along these lines that might help me out?
Monday, June 4th, 2007
11:47 pm
Hi I'm new to livejournal.  My type is isfj and I am wondering about the NTs perception of SJs. 
Tuesday, April 3rd, 2007
9:50 pm
Hello. I'm at least very, very close to an NT personality (though it's EXTREMELY hard to tell sometimes because I have equal brain hemispheres and other factors.. still, at the end of the day, most of my more important/personal decisions are usually based on intuitive logic, and any psychologist friends I have agree that that's probably the most accurate.) I'm interested in this community and others dealing with the types because I'm currently harvesting research for a personal essay on personality profiling.

Like I said, I'm pretty sure my natural temperament is an NT, but practically ALL of the important people in my life have been NFs and SFs (i.e. close friends, family, SOs, etc), so I've picked up a lot of their tendencies (mostly positive ones, thankfully), and they've expanded my worldview and thinking styles in very positive ways.

Have any of your "modes" been influenced and subject to variation due to the people you're close to? Please share any thoughts you have on this - the main topic of my essay is on shifting/"mixed types", so I'm very curious about things of this nature. Thank you. :)
Wednesday, February 28th, 2007
8:34 am
Myers-Briggs and Decision Heuristics
As an enthusiastic user of Myers-Briggs Personality Profiling, I was quite jazzed to see Stanford's Center for Professional Development parter with Strategic Decisions Group to present Destructive Decision-Making Habits, on how our MBTI types predispose us to repeatedly make certain kinds of mistakes - and how to overcome them.

Highly recommended.

Related links, discussion and a poll are on my most recent entry.
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Tuesday, February 13th, 2007
7:04 am
Mentats and Cultivating the Naive Mind (something for NT/Rationals)
Among the concepts that lingered and swirled most vividly in my imagination after reading Frank Herbert's epic Dune, was his described professional class of "Mentats."

In the novel, Mentat candidates, selected by breeding and subjected to a rigorous gauntlet of intellectual exercises since birth, are trained to absorb staggering amounts of data and disparate information to sift and coalesce the relevant into concise, usable analysis. Most children who undergo this intense process fail out before adolescence; fully-trained Mentats are considered supreme logicians and highly sought after across the Imerpium as advisors to ruling royalty, military leaders and guild directors.

A significant element of Mentat training was their efforts to cultivate what was called 'The Naive Mind' - to see things as if for the first time, ridding oneself of preconceptions and prejudice that mar most human's capacity for objectivity.

Cognitive psychologists are long familiar with the phenomenon of Confirmation Bias - the natural tendency for people to seek out and overcount evidence that supports our beliefs and dismiss data points contradictory to our world view. Once we arrive at a conclusion about something - human nature is loathe to revise our beliefs and often dig in our heels to avoid the emotionally unpleasant experience of admitting we were wrong; our egos freezes our ability to objectively sort new information that may challenge our existing assumptions, limiting our ability to grow and evolve intellectually.

"Chunking" (Cognitive Psychology)

Some may be familiar with the psychological term 'chunking;' as adults, we 'chunk' previously small bits of data into compressed macro-units so we can process larger amounts of information more effectively. Using the computer an analogy, humans have a finite amount of RAM that cannot be upgraded - the standard way to process more information is to compress data into that finite space through mental shortcuts and cognitive 'chunks.'

Those of you who play musical instruments know this intuitively; when you first learned an instrument, notes are learned one by one ... strung together clumsily and with great difficulty. As time passes, your mind aggregates certain strings of keystrokes/motions into mental 'chunks' which become your new the 'unit' of thought, until entire concertos become a single fluid stream of memorized motions that flows from your fingertips to the audience. Most of us have experienced the phenomenon where a music teacher asked "now please start from the first four notes from the third measure," only to draw a blank - we know songs from certain anchor points but we reached a level of musical proficiency in which such requests are at a level of granularity below our ability to process.

(continued here ...)

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Thursday, January 11th, 2007
5:55 pm
Type and religion
I ran across this research review. Which says this:

"Religions have often been formed from the experience of one person or a group of people. Some religions are so old we can only guess at their origins, but for those religions where we do know their history, we often find that the founding people had a spiritual experience and felt divinely inspired to bring it to their people. Peter Richardson in Four Spiritualities suggests that the form of a religion depended on the psychological type of the founder. Moses and the Jewish religion tends to be ST, Mohammad and Islam tends to be SF, Jesus and the Christians are more NF, and the Unitarians, Zen and Native Spirituality are more NT."

Monday, December 11th, 2006
1:01 pm

Intro post.
Name: Jessica
Age: 29
I am: INTJ http://typelogic.com/intj.html /Mastermind Rational (that sounds pretty evil doesnt it? lol) http://www.keirsey.com/personality/ntij.html


Current Mood: calm
Friday, December 1st, 2006
2:22 pm
Holidays and the NT
Do you have a perspective on the holidays that you consider to be a specific manifestation of the NT type? If so, what? Conversely, do you find yourself exhibiting (voluntarily or involuntarily) traits that you would more typically associate with other MBTI types, such as SFs? If so, which ones?
Tuesday, November 7th, 2006
1:24 am
Something I was curious about
Poll #861999 Continuous vs. discrete

What sort of math do you like more?

I don't know
Both equally
I don't like math

What is your type?

Feel free to share any thoughts on continuous vs. discrete and why you prefer one or the other...
Tuesday, October 10th, 2006
2:48 pm
INTP Wants Your Brains: how should an iNtuitive deal with management?

At least in the US It seems the bulk of Sensors head for business, and then from there take-over management. In the meantime, iNtuitives control the Academy. This is to the detriment of Sensors, business, management, as well as to iNtuitives and the Academy. It has taken me . . . far too long to realize that Sensors are not stupid, asinine, limited, silly, and otherwise worthless. I finally understand that "different" in this case is qualitative, not quantitative. In fact, my Sensing management is comprised of highly intelligent, experienced, capable people. However, like the iNtuitives in the Academy, like begets like and we seek what is most familiar and comforting to us.

At my company, management identifies other Sensors as qualified and so the management team is replete with well-meaning, Sensing MBAs Read more...Collapse )
Thursday, August 31st, 2006
10:02 pm
I have some questions. They’re kind of stupid, though.
But I’ll save you numerous posts and make one long one for everyone.

For INTPs:
I am an INTP. My best friend for 12 years is an INFJ. Apparently INTPs and INFJs are referred to as the “golden pair”. She has talked to many INFJs who say they have INTP best friends. How about the INTPs here? What type is your best friend?

For ENTPs:
Nevermind. Stay beautiful.

For INTJs:
Apparently INTJs like some supernatural things. Examples: My friend believes in spirits and my mother believes in zodiac. She also talked about gut feelings she had when dating my dad (INFP), like knowing she would bump into him certain random places (which she later would). I wouldn’t think NTs would like those kinds of things. Is this because of your dominant Ni? What would attract them to these things?

For the ENTJs:
A couple of days ago I was with my INFJ friend at a restaurant along with her brother and his friends. A girl was there who my INFJ friend (by the grace of NiFe) knew had dominant Te. So we started to ask her questions and it turns out she’s an ENTJ. Her brother is an INTP. It also turns out she likes her brother and her brother likes her (and this made us both extremely jealous. We are both looking for our ideal types but can’t find any ENFP or ENTJ boys. They don’t exist apparently). The thing is that even though the INTP and ENTJ like each other, they’re not going out yet. She lied when I asked her about her frail feelings. I know this, because my INFJ friend could tell. She admitted to being melodramatic and getting jealous, but little else.
What would an ENTJ’s reaction be if an INTP asked them out? How would you get an ENTJ to like an INTP or admit their true feelings? Would an ENTJ try to pursue an INTP or is that too circumstantial to attach to a personality type? What is the worse thing you can do to an ENTJ to make them not like you anymore? If the INTP were to come forward, would the ENTJ back away? What would hurt an ENTJ most? What would an ENTJ want the most? What qualities do ENTJs look for in general (not just with INTPs)? What traits annoy the ENTJ most?

And would any of you know anything about how it’s with for INFJs and ENFPs?
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